my ship is canon ([info]laharah) wrote,
@ 2008-05-25 16:13:00
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... the future of a/r ...
so, eddie's comments at the london expo made me think a lot about the future of a/r, and there are a number of possibilities that might await us ...

this is what he said:

"they are competely in love with each other."

"you're gonna get what you want. you're gonna love it, and you're gonna hate it."

"it's going to be tragic."

he also said something that sounded like they were not going to stay together.

these are the possibilities:

#1) roslin dies.

it wouldn't matter how or why, if she was the dyig leader or not. if laura dies, bill would be devastated. i mean there are spoilers that he is going to have a breakdown because laura is gone. and this time she's 'only' with the cylons's and still alive. now imagine laura being gone for good. in my opinion bill would not survive that. so, our two favourite characters die, one from cancer (?) and the other one from a broken heart.

oddly enough i would be okay with both of them dying. i would be terribly sad and i'd probably cry for days, but them both dying while still in love with each other would have a romeo & juliet kind of character.

#2) adama dies.

adama might turn out to be the dying leader, the possibility was always there. he might sacrifice himself to get the fleet to safety or to destroy the cylons. idk. i think that roslin would cope better than adama would in case she died (see #1), but i think she would be kinda 'useless' without him as well.

so i think it will be the way that if one of them dies, the other one will as well. they are a package deal. all or nothing.

#3) roslin is not the dying leader and the cancer will not kill her. but they'll break up.

so maybe she will be safed by some kind of miracle. again. and she will live. and so will adama. they'll get it on, but then decide they cannot be together because they have to make sure that the fleets survival on earth (whatever shape earth will be in) must be secured. idk. something he said today made it sound like they are not going to be staying together. (though of course they are still in love with each other, which would explain the tragic part.)

#4) roslin is a cylon. (#5) or adama is)

funnily enough this is the best possibility so far. 'cause his word ("you're going to hate it") might mean that he thinks we'll hate the fact that she turns out to be a cylon. which might be the case. but which might not be given the fact that her chances of surviving season four would increase.

so roslin is a cylon. adama finds out, can't believe it, and breaks up with her. he'll forgive her in the end 'cause he loves her and she didn't know what she was and they'll be back together.

i'd be okay with that as well, but i don't think that either of them are a cylon. ('cause my guess right now is that it is dee. idk.)

well anyway, do my ramblings make sense? do you agree/disagree with something i said? lemme know.

i think just needed to get that off my chest.

i'm going to read some happy fics now. :)



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[info]charma101
2008-05-25 05:35 pm UTC (link)
My theories BTW I like yours too:
1. Roslin will not be the dying leader but will still die. I just can't see her as ending up the dying leader, now it is just too well known, and when has BSG ever gone with what is predictable? Hopefully she does die in the final epi cause I don't want a gap in deaths.
2. Adama will also die most likely in a heroic self sacrificing way, just because we already know that he has a very high sense of attoneing for his sins or what he sees as his sins. And also how long would he last without Laura?
3. I just can't see both of them living to the end, however if one does we'd probably find them living on Earth with a cabin in the woods ala Laura's New Caprican cabin. If this happened I'd be annoyed.
4. Adama ends up a Cylon, Leoben was right all along, talk about irony. Or Laura could be a Cylon I just like Adama for it because in his own words "Then you'd be pretty screwed if I was a Cylon." Laura could be one but Mary is on record saying that she doesn't want it to happen because it'd be a betrayal to the character.
5. Just because I don't want to end on 4 EVERYBODY DIES, in one final battle and Earth is heaven or hell depending on your perception of this world.

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 06:16 pm UTC (link)
yeah, i don't think she is the dying leader either. just too obvious.

i kinda see them dying too (though i am still hopefull) and agree that it would be in some sacrificing oneself for the future of mankind kinda way. like the death of a hero. idk. but IF they die, it'll be like that.

i now it would be cheesy, but i like the idea of them having the little cabin in the woods on earth. idk. i just think it would be so sweeeet. XD

if one of them is a cylon i think it's bill as well. though i am going with dee being the final one at the moment. (though that might change again soon.) ;D

#5? i'd love that. i absolutely would. :D

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[info]charma101
2008-05-27 08:09 pm UTC (link)
I'd like it if both of them ended up in the cabin but not one or the other.

I like Dee for the final one too, but between Bill or Laura, Bill is the Cylon and she Madame Airlock.

Glad you enjoyed that one... well you never know or I could have been watching to much Lost lately IDK. :)

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 08:17 pm UTC (link)
yeah. they're a package deal. you can't have one without the other. in live or in death.

"Bill is the Cylon and she Madame Airlock."

LOL. that she is indeed. :D and we love her for it!

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[info]charma101
2008-05-27 08:38 pm UTC (link)
Package deal is right, or kinda like a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich, it takes both to make and one or the other BLAH. AR goes the same way all or nothing

Of course and if the don't love her... *sticks up nose snobbishly* then they aren't worth bothering with.

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[info]lelianamckay
2008-05-25 06:10 pm UTC (link)
Great theories!
I for one can't deal with it yet. I am leaning towards the Laura dying (Dying leader prophecy) or Laura a Cylon theories but won't look into it right now.
I want to enjoy the fact they LOVE each other as long as I can. It is sad that something "tragic" will happen but I really want to believe it will last till the final episode. We will have plenty of time to theorize about this during the hiatus. **Needs happy fic!**

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 06:18 pm UTC (link)
"I want to enjoy the fact they LOVE each other as long as I can."

meeee tooooo. i think (and sincerely hope) that they'll get together before the hiatus and we'll have all the time between now and then to *squeee* 'cause i don't think that the rest of season four will be happy. idk. just crossing my fingers that they'll finally be getting it on. XD

i hope too that IF they/she/he dies, that it won't happen until the final episode. otherwise i might stop watching!! :(

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[info]pythiaprophet
2008-05-25 06:44 pm UTC (link)
wow. I don't even know what to say about Eddie's comments like I'm excited that were going to get what we want but the whole Romeo and Juliet tragic ending has me kinda bummed.

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 06:19 pm UTC (link)
i know exactly what you mean. i went all *squeee* when he said you're gonna get what you want ... but then the rest came and i didn't know what to say. or think. my mind is just going wild with the possibilities. idk. i try to have happy thoghts though! :D

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[info]vulcanfic
2008-05-25 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Cylon! Cylon! Cylon! :)

Yeah, I still think that Adama and Roslin would make a horrible couple while they are in their current positions. Not because of any conflict of interest, but someone, who we'll call Bladama, cannot separate personal and professional.

I'm such a cynic.

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 06:20 pm UTC (link)
LOL. bladama? alright! hehehe. lets just read a book to express our feelings. idk. XD

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[info]vulcanfic
2008-06-01 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Adama does not do words. He does looks. Better the book reading than announcing out loud that you cannot live without her. *sigh* Damned anvil.

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[info]xscylon
2008-05-25 08:27 pm UTC (link)
OOooh very interesting. Not sure what to think about this yet. Don't like the tragic part much, but I bet it has something to do with someone dying. It all seems so plausible and I am wondering how badly RDM is going to screw with our heads...cuz he will...and he'll do it like only RDM does. So I guess I am just trying to enjoy it as much as I can and brace for impact for the icky stuff :-S

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 06:22 pm UTC (link)
yeah. my main guess would be as well that it has something to do with someone dying. but i try not to think about that too much. (i'm not really succeeding though.)

yessss. lets just all be happy and grab all the loving we can get outta those two. the second part of season four will be pretty sad for us as well. but who knows. mabe rdm is just crewing with us and they'll get thei happy ending. a fangirl can dream. right? *crosses fingers* XD

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[info]xscylon
2008-05-27 07:54 pm UTC (link)
A fangirl can sure dream! What are we without dreams?! :-) But yeah, RDM is real wicked, I'd say. I'll just enjoy the series while it runs. I've kinda accepted the fact that every show I've ever liked stopped, but I guess that's what good shows do...they stop and leave you heartwrenched and dreaming of more :-P

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 08:00 pm UTC (link)
hehehe. yeah, we should just wait and see what rdm has in store for us. (though i really can't help speculating all the time. *sigh*). yeah. it's good though that they stop it while they're so good. i mean it would be bad if they'd just let it run until no one watches it anymore and the stories are being repeated again and again.

we'll just go ahead and write our own scripts. like we've done before.

it all happened before. it'll all happen again! XD

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[info]xscylon
2008-05-28 11:05 am UTC (link)
SO SAY WE ALL!!!! XD

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[info]mary_fan
2008-05-26 08:51 am UTC (link)
Ok, I think at this point everything is possible and that it sounds like we're in on one hell of a ride...*g*

All your theories are possible, but I'd like to point out that Eddie is rather morbid when talking about BSG (it's dark and depressing…etc.) and that we cannot take all that he says as certainties. Before Epiphanies he said something like: "Roslin is going to die, it's a fact and you should accept it" (can't remember the exact words) and we all know how that turned out. *g* Eddie likes to shock people with his comments, so unless I know more about what and how he said what he said, I'd like to pretend that it's not a fact....
I guess we'll have a lot to talk about tonight. *g* 8.15 pm, right?

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[info]laharah
2008-05-26 01:11 pm UTC (link)
yeah, i heard (yesterday) that he was always dark when talking about the future of galactica (a lot of us are not going to make it...). so that is what he said before epiphanies? no way! LOL. he seemed so nice at the expo and now he turns out to be a liar? o.O hehehe. well, i can live with that! :D

yesss hun, 8:15 it is. or do you want me to call earlier/later?

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[info]mary_fan
2008-05-26 01:21 pm UTC (link)
He's still very nice, he just likes to toy with us poor fans. *g*

It is quite possible that we're going to love and hate it as he said, but perhaps it's till not what we think he means...it certainly something to speculate on, but I won't get all depressed over it. Sometimes I get the feeling from what Eddie says beforehand that BSG will be even darker than it turns out to be in the end...does that make sense?

Btw, aren't you supposed to be asleep? *shakeshead*

Perhaps we can make it 9pm?? I need to call a friend about a presentation tonight and I'd prefer to do that before we 'get into things', if you know what I mean....

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[info]laharah
2008-05-26 01:27 pm UTC (link)
first thing: hey you. *huggles* :D

9pm is not a problem. i'm fine with that. :D

well, i didn't wanna sleep too long 'cause otherwise my sleep rythm will ge mixed up and i won't be ale to sleep tonight (which would't be too bad but i have to work tomorrow.) LOL. and shouldn't you be at UNI and learn something ... not hang around the internet? *cough* XD not that i mind ...

yesss. it makes perfect sense. i guess between all the actors and their hints and quotes and RDM and his twisted mind (last supper picture) we can just wait and see what happens in the end. 99.9% of the speculation we'll be doing will be wrong anyway. LOL. we'll wait and see and drink tea. ;D

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[info]mary_fan
2008-05-26 01:35 pm UTC (link)
*hugsback*

9pm it is then.

I was only teasing you, I couldn't never sleep after coming home after an event either...*g*
Actually I Am in UNI (and am since 9am) and I already learned a lot today and still have over 4 hours to go and my mind needed a break...*g*

Yes, the actors really like to keep us guessing and there will be thing happening that no one would ever guess anyway...*g* But i love Eddie for his comments.

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[info]taru_croft
2008-05-26 09:06 am UTC (link)
Interesting theories. I truly hope that Roslin would not die. I dunno what is gonna happen, coz there ain't so many spoilers of Roslin out there..

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[info]laharah
2008-05-27 06:23 pm UTC (link)
i don't know either. i guess we'll just have to wait and see. though i can't help but speculate about it. ALL THE TIME. my mind just won't let it go. ik. XD

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